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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Aug 25, 2006 9:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: IKO when it was special

I have problems listening to most post 83 IKO's, they just seemed to have turned into a regular part of the rotation. Same as a half hearted Minglewood or a Throwin Stones. IKO was played only 4x in 77, 6x -78, 2x -79, 5x -80 (3 acoustic), 3x -81, 5x -82, 3x -83 THEN 13x in 84 and every other show from there on.

Most of those 77 to 83 nights were "Special" nights if ya know what I mean. The tune had built up such a mystical value that even in the latter years some people could not get over hearing it every night.

I would like to hear some great early IKO stories and comments on post 84 rotation wear.

As a side note: I know everyone loves the 84 Red Rocks version as do I.

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Aug 25, 2006 12:18pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Rotation wear? Not unique to post 84 my friend. Geez - ANY Weir tune got seriously worn out - WRS,then it was LL-Supp, then it was Sailor-Saint, and more. Jerry had his share too but Weir seemed to be the big offender earlier on. Here's an 80's on Jerry worn out tune - Don't Ease me in, total throw away although I still like it. One thing that bothers me more than rotation wear is the hurry up the intro thing - examples: Jack Straw and Me and My uncle. Both benefitted from their nice slow methodical intro's imo but then turned into sped up cut to the chase intro's.

As for later Iko's - try 2/27/90 Oakland with Beauseleil. Incredible - I mean come on, played during Mardi Gras with a Louisiana band. Also, I kind of like later Iko's better because I think I like this one more sped up like they played it in later years. Just my opinion.

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Poster: jhender501 Date: Aug 25, 2006 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

I've always loved the latter years IKO's, though I have a certain love for 8-1-82 (Happy Birthday, Jerry!) Playin'-Iko.

My favorite would be 7-2-88. Not real notable other than I was seeing the Dead after a 15 year hiatus and I was hoping for an Iko opener, and I'll be darned if I didn't get it.

Jim

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Poster: unclejohnnyd Date: Aug 25, 2006 2:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

The sound or mix or what have you of Phil's bass in July 88 was DEFINATELY notable. You can pretty much give those sub woofer lovin youngsters a run for their money playing 7-2 or 7-29/30-88

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Poster: stratocaster Date: Aug 26, 2006 6:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

09-24-88 is one of my favortite versions...Jerry's voice isn't shot yet (it does go by Ramble on Rose), the boys are announced and launch into an aiko opener...great version...

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Aug 25, 2006 2:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

I agree about post '83 Aiko's. I also agree with Uncle John, Bobby was, by far the worse offender when it came to "rotation wear", Remember the 12 straight nights of Throwing Stones when it first came out in '82?? Jerry had Touch come out the same time and "only" played it every 2-3 shows at that time. It seems that Jerry had a much wider repertoire to draw from, in any 3 show run you more likely to hear Bobby repeats than Jerry's.

As for favorite Aiko moments. One of my favorites, as I have mentioned before here, is the Playin > Aiko from 8/1/82, a real nice Birthday, slow 10 minute version. The version out of drums from Iowa City from the same tour, 8/10, is also special. Another personal favorite is the New Year's 81-82 version after the countdown, a raucous celebration of Jerry's wedding and the new year.
I also love the accoustic versions from 10/2,7 & 26/80, interestingly enough, while they performed it at the Warfield and Radio City shows, they did not break it out at the Saenger in New Orleans which occurred between them.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 25, 2006 6:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

There is an 'Iko-Iko' from Hampton '86 that i seem to recall getting into, but can't recall the date and too lazy to check my archived shows. I believe the show also had a 'Box of Rain.'

Yes, Weir would wear them out, to the point that i was like, oh sh*t not again. And never liked Mexicali or El Paso, though i won't go so far as to say that i couldn't be convinced there's some pretty decent versions out there. If you know of one, let me know and i'll give a listen.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 25, 2006 6:41pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

i agree that Weir could wear some tunes out - but so could jerry ie black peter, stella, etc. I'm not sure i agree with the "specialness" of iko. Scarlet Fire, Playin, Estimted, Eyes, Other One etc were played every 4 shows or so, so why not Iko - good song. The only "special" song in the latter years, in my humble opinion, was dark star. Iko should have been a regular every 4 show song just like those others. Iko is a great concert song and always got me moving - even the mediocre ones.

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Aug 25, 2006 6:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Sort of like It's All Over Now, which i always loved to hear, because it was such an energetic tune, even if it did always remind me of Baby Blue (in name only of course), one of the more special Jerry Ballads, via Dylan.

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Poster: jhender501 Date: Aug 25, 2006 8:47pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

re:unclejohnnyd

Yes, Phil in that show (7-2-88) was wonderful. All in all, a great show to see after a long hiatus..and a great scene that day to boot.



Jim

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 25, 2006 8:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

agreed - was at that show and it was just philomenal!!! great times

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Aug 25, 2006 9:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

I'll never forget the Iko that opened the Laguna show on 7/29/88. What a great show and what a fun Iko. They were playing it as we entered and I remember dancing across the hill and within minutes running into one of my best friends from Toronto! Now really, what are the odds?

Also love that Iko from Mew Year's '87 with the Nevilles. Also remember booking to make sure we caught the BART train back to SF and hearing the Knockin' all across the parking lot from car radios and beatboxes to the station where I heard the close on my Walkman.

Yes. They called it a SONY WAlkman and you put this thing called a tape in and...it was called analog sound.

Anyway. Frequency doesn't mean it ain't special. I saw Race is On once. Right place. Right time (Derby week-end). But really...you know?

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Poster: Liamfinnegan Date: Aug 25, 2006 10:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Another "late Iko" 2nd song in a show that turned out to be quite special- 7/7/89- one of my fav sc-fires that day as well as a mindblowing Blow Away to end set one- including extra verses that Brent threw in while the others smiled and played on- and yes, a cosmic wind did blow through old JFK stadium that day when Brent asked us for it

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Aug 26, 2006 9:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Oh that's a superb show!! I've had that tape for years.
Beyond what you've already mentioned Liam, is a fantastic Lovelight where the band does the old-fashioned call and response moment that they used to do in the Pigpen versions. It knocked me out. I just knew how good a time they were all having when I heard that. Love the SOTM before Drums too and that was the first time I heard a really heartfelt solo on that song. SOTM bloomed on this tour.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Aug 25, 2006 9:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

never heard Race in On live in person - one of my personal favorites though - just never hit the show right to catch that one. lucky bastard :)

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Poster: sydthecat Date: Aug 25, 2006 9:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Cal Expo '91.

I was actually more stoked when I saw my first BIODTL at Copps Coliseum '90. I literally jumped about five feet into the air. My friend beside me who had come to check out this "Dead thing" looked about as perplexed as one can possibly look.

I did the same thing when they played Quinn in Seattle '95 and got the same reaction from a young girl beside me.

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Poster: Fishead Date: Aug 26, 2006 7:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

for a high stomping ~ rip roaring iko
check out 3-30-90
jerry and the band are kickin'!!!!

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Poster: dscott Date: Aug 27, 2006 11:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

Some other latter day versions of Aiko (don't even get me started about the anglo-bastardized "correct" spelling!)that get me going are 10/2/94 and 3/18/95. These have some extra verses and a really smoking energy to them. 6/24/85 is another post-'84 version (not by much!) that rocks hard, with a random extra verse from Bobby.

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Poster: Street Pig Date: Aug 26, 2006 2:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: IKO when it was special

9.2.80 Rochester slow yet perfectly blends with set 2 jam
4-?-78 Fox Theatre I was there another creeper that came out of a steel drum jam with the majority of the band playin percussion,Also the Hampton mentioned earlier,something about those Hampton acoustics a genuine experience,Pig

This post was modified by Street Pig on 2006-08-26 21:12:32

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